Thursday, October 14, 2010


build a Gay gollem.‎"Butt of the joke?"
about an hour ago · LikeUnlikeLiz Mc-Whit I guess he just wanted to ram his point home.
about an hour ago · LikeUnlikeGreg Wicker Well, it's pretty tacky. I guess his taste is in his mouth.
59 minutes ago · LikeUnlikeRuz Cumbre Those Gays and their gentrification agenda, eating up all the cheap real estate......I dont get it ...what agenda? Seriously? He is pretending that his views are based on real issues and not me out here, how did all the marginalized folks start in-fighting?
50 minutes ago · LikeUnlikeRuz Cumbre They came first for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up.
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50 minutes ago · LikeUnlikeLiz Mc-Whit We don't count. They don't see our fight as equal to theirs because we are wrong and making a choice to be that way.
49 minutes ago · LikeUnlikeGreg Wicker Close-mindedness often seems to be a more powerful force than embracing the universal principal of acceptance. The marginalized folks seem to always in-fight, and I don't really get it. Mormons, African-Americans and Hispanics have all su...ffered from prejudice in the U.S. but they all supported Prop. 8 in California. I don't understand why this core American value of equality is such a hard-sell to Americans, but it's an uphill fight every time. I remember being weirded out by a Catholic communist who opposed the Cordoba center and he was basically like "look, Catholics took their lumps for decades and only managed to get acceptance by being respectful to the mainstream culture and lying low, so you Muslims need to do the same thing." It's more a culture of hazing than a culture of inclusion.
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43 minutes ago · LikeUnlikeRuz Cumbre There is an ancient curse for false prophets, that they will be reincarnated as a snake and eaten by the ants.
40 minutes ago · LikeUnlikeGreg Wicker Liz: Yeah, I've been struggling with the "choice" today thing because Valerie Jarrett just got in trouble for saying "lifestyle choice," although she is clearly an LGBT-rights supporter. And I'm like "well, who cares whether it's a choice? Full equal rights for everybody," but in order to fight the prejudice you're talking about, which equates gayness to a hobby or pasttime, the left has to articulate a very deterministic perspective.
36 minutes ago · LikeUnlikeLiz Mc-Whit It's tricky. Partially, it IS a choice... you can be with the person you want to be with regardless of gender, or you can not be & be unhappy or unfulfilled. Where as being black, or being Chicano, or whatever is not. Everywhere you go, you're still black or Chicano.
32 minutes ago · LikeUnlikeGreg Wicker Right, which is why I think the reductionism is ultimately wrong-minded (if possibly strategically necessary for the moment). Especially considering that some people are able to have fulfilling relationships with people of more than 1 gender. The thing we need everyone to realize is that the government shouldn't be able to infringe on the core liberty of determining who you cohabit, love, and/or build families with. The court is generally heading in that direction but the culture sometimes seems a step or two behind.
24 minutes ago · LikeUnlikeRuz Cumbre it appears to be a case of..."if you ask the wrong questions you dont have to worry about the answers" sort of tactic/condiment in a devide and conquer hogie. These are opinions in an abyss of the construct of morality, no ground for social coexistance. I think the real questions would be formed around, who is benefitting from the in-fighting.
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